tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post1201867962257176990..comments2023-12-24T18:09:37.205+11:00Comments on Somebody Has To Say It: WANTED: An Editor Who Wants Me - Guest Post by Kelly Stone GambleAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18436989031700445050noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-66993717734464177672012-03-22T16:32:42.229+11:002012-03-22T16:32:42.229+11:00I wish you would include your website. As I said, ...I wish you would include your website. As I said, I really am looking...Kelly Gamblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-29242450836745025902012-03-22T16:32:16.733+11:002012-03-22T16:32:16.733+11:00Yes, that is one approach, not one I personally wo...Yes, that is one approach, not one I personally would be interested in, but I'm sure there are others that would be, and specifically, because I wouldn't want to be slugged with a huge bill at the end as Ciara suggests. I like the editors that do the free page edits up front, and then, I'd also like for them to indicate how long it took them to do that edit. Just me. I'm pretty good at gauging these things.Kelly Gamblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-54989076771653264592012-03-22T16:28:48.348+11:002012-03-22T16:28:48.348+11:00Right, I've seen the standard pricing chart, w...Right, I've seen the standard pricing chart, which shows a pretty wide range of standard pricing. I saw another good website today that I will share with you, Ciara. It was based on time, but the editor indicated what that translates to, roughly, for page count. That works, too.Kelly Gamblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-61892757570596169932012-03-22T09:35:59.817+11:002012-03-22T09:35:59.817+11:00Or at least make you WANT to cry. I haven't cr...Or at least make you WANT to cry. I haven't cried yet, but mine makes me feel like I should!Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-28416678800769534072012-03-22T09:35:13.930+11:002012-03-22T09:35:13.930+11:00It rocks, huh? I want to know where I can get one!...It rocks, huh? I want to know where I can get one!Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-11264832487358155362012-03-22T09:34:20.998+11:002012-03-22T09:34:20.998+11:00Good luck on your quest!Good luck on your quest!Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-20039397263662677672012-03-22T09:34:06.555+11:002012-03-22T09:34:06.555+11:00An editing job isn't just a job, it IS a relat...An editing job isn't just a job, it IS a relationship! Good point, Jane.Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-11813959038155465682012-03-22T09:33:21.177+11:002012-03-22T09:33:21.177+11:00Hard to make a purchasing decision without purchas...Hard to make a purchasing decision without purchase costs :-)Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-31829265373490223072012-03-22T09:33:02.574+11:002012-03-22T09:33:02.574+11:00I think the theme that is coming out here is commu...I think the theme that is coming out here is communication, communication, communication. People will tolerate a lot, including delays and added expense, as long as they kept informed and in control. .Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-44070318815430780732012-03-22T09:31:45.614+11:002012-03-22T09:31:45.614+11:00Good points. An editor should be as picky about he...Good points. An editor should be as picky about her clients as a writer is about her editor. If the editor feels it's not the right job for them, they should be turning the job down.Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-11785899964432920572012-03-22T09:30:44.839+11:002012-03-22T09:30:44.839+11:00Excellent, glad you found it valuable.Excellent, glad you found it valuable.Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-12555751039754989942012-03-22T09:30:32.984+11:002012-03-22T09:30:32.984+11:00That's definitely one approach. As lawyers, we...That's definitely one approach. As lawyers, we sometimes use that approach here. The other approach is to offer developmental or mentoring services for people whose work is not at the line edit stage. I think as long as people are ept informed and not slugged with a huge bill unexpectedly at the end, they're often OK.Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-67989710592443872792012-03-22T09:29:03.928+11:002012-03-22T09:29:03.928+11:00Lorca, you are so absolutely correct. I don't ...Lorca, you are so absolutely correct. I don't read that collective shit anymore because no one is paying me.Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-78641052564875540562012-03-22T09:28:10.057+11:002012-03-22T09:28:10.057+11:00I thought of you when Kelly wrote this post. I'...I thought of you when Kelly wrote this post. I'll talk to you about the outing. It can be done, but will need to be done carefully.Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-82944571912580359152012-03-22T09:26:58.618+11:002012-03-22T09:26:58.618+11:00Trust is one of the most critical elements in a se...Trust is one of the most critical elements in a service business because you aren't selling a tangible product and you need to trust the person advising you. If you don't trust them, what have you paid for? An opinion no more valuable to you than one you could get on the street.Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-60176795166092884652012-03-22T09:25:25.801+11:002012-03-22T09:25:25.801+11:00I think a clean layout goes for most things!I think a clean layout goes for most things!Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-51206442291474158762012-03-22T09:24:32.501+11:002012-03-22T09:24:32.501+11:00I absolutely agree there should be more services o...I absolutely agree there should be more services offered than just a line edit. Not all work is at the standard of being ready for a line edit. And of course any service provider has the ritght to decline to service a client. I call it 'firing' a client LOL. I<br /><br />'ve also learned from law that clients would much rather I admit I can't do something than try and do it badly.Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-69071024588694072572012-03-22T09:22:10.347+11:002012-03-22T09:22:10.347+11:00I agree with all Kelly's points. An editor I k...I agree with all Kelly's points. An editor I know has also led me to understand:<br /><br />a) There is standard pricing set by some industry body - I forget who it is, but I should check; and<br />b) An editor should have worked in the industry, not just be a writer who thinks they can charge for beta reading, because that's not on! Qualifications and training a definite must. <br /><br />And like any professional (lawyer, doctor etc.) you need to find a compatible personality and someone you can trust.Ciara Ballintynehttp://ciaraballintyne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-18450418815620338662012-03-22T06:25:27.160+11:002012-03-22T06:25:27.160+11:00A good post with some great suggestions. I sometim...A good post with some great suggestions. I sometimes work as an editor as well as an author. I am very experienced and have to say that I always charge by the hour. The problem is that if the writing is really bad, with a lot of grammatical mistakes and plot issues such as a lack of understanding of point of view, then it can take 30 minutes to edit one page, whereas if the writing is reasonably clean it might take 10 minutes or less. So what I always do is ask for a nominal amount up front (say, 4 hours worth of my time), and when I've spent that money in terms of time, I share what I've done with the author and ask if they want to continue. That way neither of us wastes a lot of money or time. All authors and editors are not good matches, as you obviously know. Best of luck with your writing and editing!Pamela Beasonhttp://www.pamelabeason.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-18311903887910954312012-03-21T21:07:12.408+11:002012-03-21T21:07:12.408+11:00Great post! Glad to say I do most of these already...Great post! Glad to say I do most of these already, and can easily incorporate the rest.Celes33http://triciakristufek.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-12604628153083581842012-03-21T17:00:53.617+11:002012-03-21T17:00:53.617+11:00I have a feeling I'm going to be writing this ...I have a feeling I'm going to be writing this story, Dean. LOLKelly Gamblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-23524627977228967472012-03-21T17:00:32.748+11:002012-03-21T17:00:32.748+11:00Well, I must go check your site! Thanks for the in...Well, I must go check your site! Thanks for the info!Kelly Gamblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-27000530650033739812012-03-21T16:59:02.700+11:002012-03-21T16:59:02.700+11:00Thanks, Barbara!Thanks, Barbara!Kelly Gamblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-28681520259681104422012-03-21T16:58:51.618+11:002012-03-21T16:58:51.618+11:00I am full of rants. Anytime you need one, you kno...I am full of rants. Anytime you need one, you know where to find me. :)Kelly Gamblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2333982446003350398.post-34726040738044419122012-03-21T16:58:28.601+11:002012-03-21T16:58:28.601+11:00I agree, a good one is worth their weight in gold....I agree, a good one is worth their weight in gold. But it sure is hard to determine if they are worth what they are charging if we have no information about them.Kelly Gamblenoreply@blogger.com